Re: eGovOS conference in D.C.; I'm not attending that

[Chalu Kim]

Have you read a book called "Toxic Waste is good for you". This is about 
spinning as in BS generator.

For example, lots of anti-smoke non-profits are funded and fronted by tobacco 
companies. Why shouldn't Microsoft and IBM sprinkle their "inventions" or 
secondary inventions to open-source.

This sounds like a way to piss purists and developers off the chart. 

On Thursday 06 February 2003 05:17 pm, Scott Lambert wrote:
> So go and tell people otherwise.  Boycotting gains you, and your cause,
> nothing.  They probably won't notice that you didn't show up.  Showing
> up and talking to people might help get people's attention.
>
> On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 05:06:00PM -0500, David Sugar wrote:
> > While I agree it is unfortunate that the meaning of freedom in Free
> > Software has been watered down and the importance of freedom sometimes
> > ignored by people who proclaim "Open Source" for it's mear utility and
> > efficiency, I do not appose attending so called "Open Source" events for
> > that reason alone. Sometimes there are people who use the term and simply
> > do not understand the implications, and certainly there are many people
> > today who advocate "Open Source" rather than Free Software who are
> > neither hostile to software freedom nor have goals that are all that
> > different from ours.  We should not divide ourselves over that alone.
> >
> > That being said, Derek is quite correct that one of my objections to
> > eGovOS is that it lends false credence and legitimacy to the idea that
> > "shared source" is somehow a valid and morally equivilent form of "Open
> > Source" or that there is only a competitve points to consider and
> > distinguish free and propretary software.  Do we conclude that there is a
> > moral equivillence between freedom in western democracies and the old
> > soviet system?
> >
> > On Thursday 06 February 2003 16:38, Derek Neighbors wrote:
> > > David Sugar said:
> > > > I recall that I originally had offered to help with a gnue
> > > > presentation at  eGovOS this year.  For a number of reasons, and
> > > > contrary to previous plans,  after reviewing the circumstances of the
> > > > eGovOS event, I have chosen this  afternoon not to attend this year's
> > > > eGovOS conference in mid-march after all.   I think Derek may well
> > > > guess some of my reasons for making this decision.   Instead, I am
> > > > considering extending my visit to Prague next month by several  mire
> > > > days, especially if it would help enable further discussions with
> > > > their  government and the Czech free software community in promoting
> > > > the development  and adoption of free software in the public sector
> > > > by the Czech national  government.  I may also try to see some of
> > > > thier city.
> > >
> > > I was going to email RMS and what was up with this conference as he at
> > > one time seemed to have a relationship with Tony Stanco, but figured
> > > best to leave well enough alone.
> > >
> > > I fully agree that the event should be boycotted by GNUe and anyone
> > > else that is sick of seeing Free Software slowly being eroded into
> > > "Open Source" software and further watered down to "Shared Source"
> > > software, that negates the whole purpose of being of Free Software to
> > > begin with.
> > >
> > > It is a shame as the conference is a good idea, but sadly I think poor
> > > judgement is being exercised. :(
> > >
> > > -derek
> >
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