Re: A few remarks concerning \relative

[Janek Warchoł]

2011/9/13 David Kastrup <address@hidden>:
> Graham Percival <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 04:18:38PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
>>> Graham Percival <address@hidden> writes:
>>>
>>> > I'm reluctant to add the suggestion of \relative f' {  to the
>>> > tutorial since all the examples are variants of c.
>>>
>>> Personally, I don't think \relative f' is all that interesting.  The
>>> really idiomatic phrase is \relative f without octave indicators.
>>
>> oh, ok.
>>
>>>  quotes @code{''} and not one double quote @code{"address@hidden
>>> address@hidden " - keeps quotes in order for context-sensitive editor -td
>>>
>>> +If you carefully consider all the rules above and remember that the
>>> +octave of absolute pitches also is specified disregarding any
>>> +accidentals, one rather interesting consequence is that the first note
>>> +in @address@hidden f}} music is interpreted just the same as in
>>> +absolute pitch mode.
>>> +
>>> address@hidden Durations (rhythms)
>>
>> Sounds great for notation/pitches.itely.  Feel free to push it to
>> pitches.itely directly.  But this is *not* appropriate for the
>> tutorial.  I will be very unhappy if you put it there.
>
> It already went in with the last batch of patches (I was stopping to get
> anywhere because changes happened faster than I could rebase and
> regtest).  Feel free to revert.
>
> However, this particular text was intended to be written in
> tutorial-speak and not tailored for the notation manual.  Notation-speak
> would be something like "Since octaves of absolute pitches are also
> established ignoring accidentals, @address@hidden f}} is
> indistinguishable from having the first note specified as absolute
> pitch."
>
>
>> When users are still coming to grips with two single quotes '' vs
>> a double quote ", they're not going to be carefully considering
>> the specifications of disregarding interesting consequences
>> carefully.
>>
>>> and I don't see the point in hiding this information from beginners out
>>> of fear that they might like it.
>>
>> Trust me.  The tutorial should keep words to 3 syllables or less
>> if at all possible.
>
> How about:
> "Here is a neat trick: if you write @address@hidden f}}, the next
> note will look just like absolute pitch."
> Apart from "absolute", only monosyllabic words.
>
> Deal?

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