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Re: [GNU/consensus] [SocialSwarm-D] Fwd: FYI: Securing the Future of the


From: Michael Rogers
Subject: Re: [GNU/consensus] [SocialSwarm-D] Fwd: FYI: Securing the Future of the Social Web with Open Standards
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:33:09 +0100
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On 25/07/13 08:58, elijah wrote:
> * Third-party-dropbox: To exchange messages, user A and user B
> negotiate a unique "dropbox" URL for depositing messages,
> potentially using a third party. To send a message, user A would
> post the message to the "dropbox". To receive a message, user B
> would regularly polls this URL to see if there are new messages.

Hi Elijah,

I'm curious about the third-party dropbox idea (partly because I'm
currently working on an HTTP dead drop transport for Briar). It seems
like there are two ways you could do this:

1. The dropbox is shared by multiple users; when user A authenticates
and deposits a message, she tells the dropbox that user B is allowed
to collect the message.

2. The dropbox is only used by one pair of users; when user A
authenticates and deposits a message, the dropbox knows it's for user B.

In either case, the dropbox has metadata about who's communicating
with whom. In case 2, anyone watching the dropbox also has that
metadata. (In case 1, anyone watching the dropbox has that metadata
unless communication with the dropbox is encrypted and padded.)

So I don't see how this technique is metadata-resistant, except in the
short term (NSA has to arrange metadata collection from a new service
provider). What am I missing?

Cheers,
Michael

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