Re: GNUstep Icons and look proposal

[Nicolas Roard]

Le 21 août 04, à 12:46, M. Uli Kusterer a écrit :

> In article <mailman.2133.1093032870.2011.discuss-gnustep@gnu.org>,
>  Nicolas Roard <nicolas@roard.com> wrote:
>
> > why not, yes. Difficulty is to find a good theme ... if anybody has an
> > idea...
> > Problem is, I know some themes that are nice, but I doubt they have 
> > the
> > OpenStep look we want :-)
> > like http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/677/ or
> > http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/675/ ...
>
>  They are definitely well done, but I suspect it wouldn't be too good 
> to
> have such unique styles in the default theme.

Yes, that's what I was pointing.. I think we could set up the mechanism 
for simply
changing the default icons set by the user; and we could probably 
package some
of theses themes available on art.gnome.org and kde-looks.org ...
_But_, finding a good looking, original, default theme for GNUstep will 
be hard.

> Especially the
> hand-drawn-looking theme would make it very hard for programmers to 
> come
> up with matching application icons. A simpler, more generic theme might
> be a better choice here.

I agree :-)

> > er, well, please people, try to agree :-) some told me it was XP-ish
> > (?), now
> > it's Aqua-ish ... :-)
> > Honestly, I don't think it's much aqua. The only thing like aqua is 
> > the
> > "halo" for
> > focused widgets, but that's all.
>
>  And the title bars with the white gradient.

yes that's right.. :)

> BTW -- a few suggestions on
> that theme?
>
> - the title bar is one pixel too short at the right edge. It should
> finish on the same column as the window edge
> - It'd look a tad better if the title bar's bottom line and the window
> frame's top line overlapped. The way it is now, we get a four-pixel 
> line
> where the two lines meet. If they overlapped, it would be two pixels
> like everywhere else, which looks a lot prettier.

yep, I made the titlebar very quickly, just to test the look. It 
definitely needs
some corrections :)

> - The widget icons kind of exceed the grey circles that are used as the
> outline for the widgets. This looks as if it was a bug. Either make it
> more obvious, or fix things so the circle lies outside the icon.

hmm.. you mean, for the icons in the open panel for example ?
that's not as easily fixed though; I can't modify the button's frame
(well I can but it leads to many other problems :), so the only thing I 
can do
is probably to draw the grey circles on top of the icons (or reducing 
the clipping,
which is kinda the same result)

> - Just for completeness I'll repeat this: If you make the title bar 
> more
> NeXTish by making it grey instead of white, it hearkens back to NeXT,
> while having this hint of Aqua that also makes people think of Cocoa.

Well, it is gray :-) but ok, I'll test a darker gray.

> > Anyway, there will be more than this theme, so..
>
>  Well, I personally like this theme. It is very simple, while still
> looking 3Dish and modern. A little clean-up and an icon set to go with
> it, and I'd be happy. But of course we should probably ask people who
> were in favor of keeping the original NeXT look whether they're okay
> with this. I'm easy to placate if the theme isn't too fancy. Not to
> mention that I don't have a GNUstep installation right now.

Well, I'm not sure that this theme should be the default one. Depends 
of what
people thinks, but I think more people will still prefer the default 
OpenStep one :)
Anyway, it will be easy to change the look using themes, so..

thanks

--
Nicolas Roard
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 -Arthur C. Clarke