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Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding.
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding. |
Date: |
Fri, 05 Feb 2021 21:41:46 +0200 |
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 18:24:37 +0000
> Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
>
> > > More than that. Over that time, how often have people
> > > asked for such a global binding?
> >
> > We never bother ourselves with such questions; never did. We consider
> > ourselves to be aware and familiar enough with the Emacs usage
> > landscape to make such decisions without polling users on each and
> > every step,
>
> I think Richard was not talking about polling, there.
>
> I mentioned polling.
You did, and Richard said "more than that". If that's not agreement,
then I don't know what agreement is.
> > In a case such as this one, when one of the maintainers says "this
> > makes sense", I expect to hear technical arguments for or against that
> > (btw, only agreements were heard when the original decision in this
> > case was made), but I do NOT expect to hear "go ask the world because
> > you don't really know what you are talking about".
>
> 1. I gave technical arguments. I've even repeated
> them, since.
Not relevant to the issues I raised.
> 2. It's not true that only agreements were heard.
> I expressed disagreement from the outset.
You disagree with any suggestion to add new key bindings, so I long
ago stopped taking your disagreements about these issues seriously.
> I just asked _questions_:
>
> How do we know that? Users haven't been polled,
> have they?
"You just asked questions." Please don't insult my intelligence. I
can read, you know. When I express an opinion and you say we cannot
know that because there was no poll, how to interpret that other than
a demand to make a poll before my opinion would count? And then
Richard seconded that.
- RE: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., (continued)
- RE: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Drew Adams, 2021/02/04
- Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Richard Stallman, 2021/02/05
- Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Eli Zaretskii, 2021/02/05
- Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Thibaut Verron, 2021/02/05
- Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Eli Zaretskii, 2021/02/05
- Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Thibaut Verron, 2021/02/05
- Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Dmitry Gutov, 2021/02/05
- RE: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Drew Adams, 2021/02/05
- RE: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Drew Adams, 2021/02/05
- Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Eli Zaretskii, 2021/02/05
- Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding.,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Richard Stallman, 2021/02/07
- Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Eli Zaretskii, 2021/02/07
- RE: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Drew Adams, 2021/02/07
- Re: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Richard Stallman, 2021/02/07
- Re: Concern about new binding., Gregory Heytings, 2021/02/05
- Re: Concern about new binding., Joost Kremers, 2021/02/05
- Re: Concern about new binding., Gregory Heytings, 2021/02/05
- RE: [External] : Re: Concern about new binding., Drew Adams, 2021/02/05
- Re: Concern about new binding., Joost Kremers, 2021/02/06
- Re: Concern about new binding., Gregory Heytings, 2021/02/06