RE: Resource list, revised and extended again

[Fairchild]

I don't clearly follow what is being proposed, but it seems off track.  The
need is for a single source of links for information useful to Lilyponders,
not cluttered with a morass of sources for composers or musicians.  Even
though denied on the posting, LilyPond resources imply some measure of
recommendation/endorsement by the developers.

What should be in?  Postings of .ly files.  Manuals/guides for elements of
LilyPond: Scheme, PS, etc.  Editors especially supportive of LilyPond.
Testimonials.  Dictionaries and engraving guides used by the developers.

What should be out?  Music and music information unrelated to LilyPond.

What should be debated?  Engraving info not used by LilyPond.  Sources for
public domain scores that could benefit from LilyPond engraving.

I just briefly explored dmoz.  Never before knew it existed.  Impressive,
but it doesn't seem a good substitute for a selected set of links from
within lilypond.org.  For resources supporting Lily, I want a single place.
For some broad categories such as music dictionaries, dmoz might provide a
good source, but music dictionaries don't seem to be there.  A search for
lilypond editors also finds nothing.  Redirection through dmoz seems
unnecessary.

Volunteers are willing to provide content for a page at
http://lilypond.org/web/resources.  Why not?

                         - Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: John Mandereau [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:10 PM
To: Han-Wen Nienhuys
Cc: Fairchild; Lily devel
Subject: Re: Resource list, revised and extended again


Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: 
> there is one thing that I still don't get, which is why this should be
> done on lilypond.org. Aren't there many link directories (eg. dmoz.org) 
> that are more suited to this kind of application? I assume that they 
> will already have all the machinery to edit, check and translate links 
> in a distributed  way.
> 
Oh yeah, It'd be certainly more easy than doing it on lilypond.org; I didn't
know there were such sites. After searching a bit, I really find the Open
Directory Project (dmoz.org) the most interesting.

They have a category Computers: Multimedia: Music and Audio: Software:
Notation at
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Multimedia/Music_and_Audio/Software/Notation/
where a sub-category LilyPond could be added. Links are submitted to "senior
editors" who decide to add them or not. In my oppinion, this system is more
interesting for us than reciprocal links directories or directories with
more ads than real links.

The only "problem" is that links will be spread in very different categories
( Notation: LilyPond, Arts: Music: Resources: Downloadable Music Sheets,
Software:, and various other categories for PostScript, Scheme). I suggest
that we put a resources page on lilypond.org that contains links to the
relevant categories in dmoz.org. Do the webmasters approve this idea?

Another problem is that some links may be rejected.

Maybe I'm going to become an editor; Bruce, would you like too? There is
already a dozen of links, which are listed here (those not listed are
already in dmoz.org):

- could be in category Computers: Multimedia: Music and Audio: Software:
Notation: LilyPond:

LilyPond Snippet Repository (LSR) - http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/ LSR collects
demonstrative input examples, contributed by LilyPonders.

Bagpipe tunes -
http://www.svenax.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=sheetmusic&file=index
Svenax has posted 100 bagpipe tunes in his sheet
music archive. Lily source is available at
svn://svenax.dynip.com/LilyMusic/Bagpipe,
which needs <a href="http://subversion.tigris.org/";>Subversion</a>,
which is easy to use through
the <a href="http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/";>TortoiseSVN client</a>. # could
be also in category: Music sheets


LilyPondTool plugin for jEdit -
http://plugins.jedit.org/plugins/?LilyPondTool
helps build LilyPond scores. See the
<a href="http://lily4jedit.sourceforge.net/users-guide.html";>LilyPondTool
User's
Guide</a>, especially <em>Chapter 2: Installation</em>, and subscribe to the
<a href="http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lily4jedit-user";>user
list</a>.

LilyPad - http://edbaskerville.com/software/lilypad/
a Mac OS X editor for LilyPond



- could be in Computers: Multimedia: Music and Audio: Software:
Notation:

Comparison of music typesetting programs
The newsgroup rec.music.theory has a thread about comparing seven commercial
and one free (LilyPond) music typesetting programs.  See Laura Conrad's
weblog
http://www.laymusic.org/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi/2005/08/14#050814-comparison



- could be in category Arts: Music: Resources: Downloadable Music
Sheets:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen/
Han-Wen Nienhuys maintains some sheet music
<http://www.google.com/search?le=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&q=pour
+cor&btnG=Google+Search&num=20&sourceid=Mozilla-search><i>pour
cor</i></a>.

http://percival-music.ca/
Graham Percival posts his cello and viola compositions.




- could be in various other categories (Music notation, ...):

Music Publishers' Association http://www.mpa.org
MPA posts information about music engraving, publishing, and copyrighting.
See especially their "Standard Music Notation Practice"
http://www.mpa.org/notation/notation.pdf
#MPA is already referenced in dmoz; just submit the PDF link

Musical Notation Links
Gerd Castan maintains an extensive hierarchy of musical links at
http://www.music-notation.info

-- 
John Mandereau <address@hidden>