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Re: Export to XML


From: nitram45
Subject: Re: Export to XML
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 09:59:05 +0000

Dear all,

Thank you for your comments about that situation. I tried what Jean
suggested :

1) The XML export in Frescobaldi did work but the result was very
unsatisfactory. I even tried to simplify as much as I could (erased all
tweaks, custom commands, fingerings) and only kept the music notes. But
still, the result when imported in Finale (2014) was terrible (some voices
were displaced!).

2) I tried the OpenLilylib package. I wasn't familiar with that tool and
had to struggle a bit with the installation. But still, with the
export-example.ly seen in the manual, I get this error message:

|  GNU LilyPond 2.22.2
|  Traitement de « export-example.ly »
|  Analyse...
|  
|  oll-core: library infrastructure successfully loaded.
|  Interprétation en cours de la musique...
|  init exportHumdrum: "export-example.krn"
|  init Staff 1
|  init Voice 1/1 (1)
|  init Voice 1/2 (2)
|  init Staff 2
|  init Voice 1/ (3)
|  init Voice 2/ (1)
|  init Voice 2/mel 
(2)/home/remy/.config/lilypond/openlilylib/lilypond-export/api.scm:278:48: In 
expression (ly:grob-properties grob):
|  /home/remy/.config/lilypond/openlilylib/lilypond-export/api.scm:278:48: 
Unbound variable: ly:grob-properties

And I only get the PDF as an output. I don't know what I missed here?

3) I tried in the same old Finale version to import my PDF and I have to
admit the result was for now the most satisfactory... I am pretty convinced
now that Schott uses Sibelius as I read those fonts in some PDF examples
they put online (maybe this will be of interest for some of you):
| SchottMusicSibeliusStandard
| SchottMusicSibeliusText
| CenturySchoolbook-Bold
| TimesNewRoman
| OpusText
| OpusFiguredBassStd
| LinotypeSyntaxCom-Regular

4) I don't know if the fact I could not provide a workable file for them
would be a deal breaker... I hope not as I "imagined" the work of a
publishing company to be able to engrave from scratch any score... I could
also mimic their own house styling in LilyPond, but I would be very
surprised they ask for that and agree with Andrew, something would be wrong
if so. So if I can't export in XML, my best bet would be for them to typeset
from scratch, or to import the PDF in their own software and see if that
can provide a good initial base...

5) To answer Andrew about the copyright and financial deal, I haven't
received a concrete proposal yet and cannot say how it would appear. I know
the incomes won't be very substantial, but still I see that as on
opportunity to reach more people. But I would be curious to know what you
meant by self-publishing? I, for sure, like to buy my scores on paper and
that is an aspect I like in those old publishing companies...

6) Last point: I made some month ago, a short presentation and introduction
to LilyPond for my colleagues in my music institution. Beyond the fact it
was quite a challenge to try and convince them of the utility to take some
time and learn that great tool, I received that question I couldn't answer
at the time: is it possible to import or export in XML? I haven't have a
use for that kind of feature until now, and I don't know how the commercial
softwares handle that, but still, wouldn't that be a great argument to
convince the people to go for it? Final thought, I don't know how Urs did
manage to convince publishers about LilyPond and what responses he got (I
would be curious though), but I am pretty sure that kind of limitation in
importing/exporting in XML would be nowdays a dealbreaker for publishing
companies, don't you agree?



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