Re: Flexible lyric alignment,Re: Flexible lyric alignment

[Abraham Lee]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 4:34 PM Abraham Lee <tisimst.lilypond@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 3:23 PM Jean Abou Samra <jean@abou-samra.fr> wrote:

Le 17/11/2022 à 23:02, Jean Abou Samra a écrit :
> Le 17/11/2022 à 23:01, Werner LEMBERG a écrit :
>>>>> But how do you take into account the constraints from lyrics here?
>>>>> That is the whole problem.
>>>> They should be completely ignored.
>>> In that case, it should be completely doable even in Scheme now.
>>> (I started writing some code yesterday in response to Abraham that
>>> does essentially that, maybe I'll have it finished today).
>> Aah, nice!
>
> No so fast, wait until it actually works before calling
> it nice, otherwise if it doesn't work I'll feel bad :-)




Here you go.

This is a vast refinement of the initial \autoMove function that takes all
lyric words into account simultaneously, finding an optimal solution that
minimizes the distance from each lyric word to its note while respecting
the minimal distances between lyric words as configured by
LyricSpace.minimum-distance / LyricHyphen.minimum-distance.

I used the first algorithm with acceptable complexity that I could
think of, so there may be a simpler solution for this. Nevertheless,
it runs in linear time, so I'm happy enough. (If it were quadratic
or worse, the running time could potentially be problematic if
ly:one-line-auto-height breaking is used, in which case there can
be lots of lyrics on the same line.)

Caveats:

- As said in a previous message, this is the other extreme compared
   to what LilyPond does by default: lyrics are not taken into account
   *at all* into note spacing. In particular, LilyPond may produce
   a page breaking configuration in which there are too many notes on
   the same system to fit the lyrics comfortably. I expect that using
   \break in those cases will often be enough to get an acceptable result,
   but I have zero experience with typesetting music with lyrics.
   (And little actual practical experience with typesetting music at
   all, to be honest.)

- I have barely tested it.

Additional featurelets:

- You can still set LyricText.self-alignment-X. It defines the position
   of the LyricText that the algorithm will consider optimal.

- You can set LyricText.details.strength to tell the algorithm to
   place one specific syllable closer to its note at the expense
   of the others. See the example.

Before someone asks: this is not good to integrate into LilyPond as-is,
because it breaks assumptions that grob implementors and LilyPond in
general make (namely, the assumption that the X-offset of an item is
known before line breaking). One would have to either go for a full
solution as brainstormed in one of my earlier messages, or at least
find a way for an Item to declare that its positioning depends on other
things (akin to the current cross-staff property, but preferably less
invasive).

Hope that helps,
Jean

This looks absolutely amazing! I'm running into some compiler issues when I try to run it on my machine, but I'll see if I can work out why and let you know if I'm unable. Either way, bravo! The output looks like it will fix many situations automagically. This seems to be a fantastic step in the right direction.

Generally, I end up controlling the system breaking in the end, anyway, so I'm not too concerned about the possibility of too long a line. 

Many thanks,

Abraham

Still running into compiler errors. I figured my version was just out of date, but after downloading 2.23.81, I still get the following log:

%<-------------SNIP-----------------------

Starting lilypond.exe 2.23.81 [tricky-lyrics.ly]...
Processing `K:/music-related/lilypond/snippets/lyric-autospacer/tricky-lyrics.ly'
Parsing...
K:/music-related/lilypond/snippets/lyric-autospacer/respace-lyrics.ily:8:2: error: Guile signaled an error for the _expression_ beginning here
#
 (use-modules (ice-9 match)

In procedure bytevector-u64-set!: Value out of range: -149659645
K:/music-related/lilypond/snippets/lyric-autospacer/respace-lyrics.ily:14:2: error: Guile signaled an error for the _expression_ beginning here
#
 (define-syntax-rule (transform! lval proc)

In procedure bytevector-u64-set!: Value out of range: -149659645
K:/music-related/lilypond/snippets/lyric-autospacer/respace-lyrics.ily:17:2: error: Guile signaled an error for the _expression_ beginning here
#
 (define ->

In procedure bytevector-u64-set!: Value out of range: -149659645
K:/music-related/lilypond/snippets/lyric-autospacer/respace-lyrics.ily:36:2: error: Guile signaled an error for the _expression_ beginning here
#
 (define-class <lyric-variable> ()

In procedure bytevector-u64-set!: Value out of range: -149659645
K:/music-related/lilypond/snippets/lyric-autospacer/respace-lyrics.ily:44:2: error: Guile signaled an error for the _expression_ beginning here
#
 (define (merged-variable! group var)

In procedure bytevector-u64-set!: Value out of range: -149659645
K:/music-related/lilypond/snippets/lyric-autospacer/respace-lyrics.ily:67:2: error: Guile signaled an error for the _expression_ beginning here
#
 (define (propagate! variables)

In procedure bytevector-u64-set!: Value out of range: -149659645
K:/music-related/lilypond/snippets/lyric-autospacer/respace-lyrics.ily:81:2: error: Guile signaled an error for the _expression_ beginning here
#
 (define (finalize! variables)

In procedure bytevector-u64-set!: Value out of range: -149659645
K:/music-related/lilypond/snippets/lyric-autospacer/respace-lyrics.ily:93:2: error: Guile signaled an error for the _expression_ beginning here
#
 (define (solve-lyric-spacing-problem! variables)

In procedure bytevector-u64-set!: Value out of range: -149659645
K:/music-related/lilypond/snippets/lyric-autospacer/respace-lyrics.ily:101:2: error: Guile signaled an error for the _expression_ beginning here
#
 (define (respace-lyrics! grob)

In procedure bytevector-u64-set!: Value out of range: -149659645
K:/music-related/lilypond/snippets/lyric-autospacer/respace-lyrics.ily:162:56: error: Guile signaled an error for the _expression_ beginning here
    \override VerticalAxisGroup.after-line-breaking = #
                                                       respace-lyrics!

In procedure bytevector-u64-set!: Value out of range: -149659645
K:/music-related/lilypond/snippets/lyric-autospacer/tricky-lyrics.ly:72:2: error: Guile signaled an error for the _expression_ beginning here
#
 (set-global-staff-size 19)

In procedure bytevector-u64-set!: Value out of range: -149659645
Interpreting music...[8]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Converting to `tricky-lyrics.pdf'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
Completed successfully in 0.8".

%<-------------SNIP-----------------------

Thoughts on what I'm doing wrong or how I can proceed?

Thanks,

Abraham