Re: Cocoa/Windows parallel dvlpmt

[Philippe C . D . Robert]

On Feb 4, 2004, at 1:30 AM, Philip Mötteli wrote:
> > Most that I know who use Windows do it either because they have no 
> > knowledge of the alternatives, no money for something "better" or 
> > circumstances are just forcing them to use Windows.
>
> :-)   So, what did I say? Do they work with Windows or not?
> But the context was GNUstep and Cocoa: People do not use GNUstep, 
> because they have a predefined opinion. An opinion which is not based 
> on facts. Such biased opinions are the subject of marketing. Who's 
> making the marketing for GNUstep?

It's the old discussion again, you forget or ignore one important issue 
here, which is that since GNUstep is no "desktop environment" you 
cannot just "see it work" like you can do with KDE or Mac OS X and so 
on. There is no easy way of installing GNUstep and a whole bunch of 
GNUstep apps so that they just work, interact, shine ..., so how can 
one know if it works or not, how can you make convincing marketing, as 
you say?

Additionally, why would a Cocoa developer want to port a GUI app from 
Mac OS X to GNUstep if at the end there is no environment in which the 
app would be integrated? To me this is a complete show stopper. IMHO 
the really exceptional part of OpenStep (and thus GNUstep as well as 
Cocoa) is the AppKit, and as long as the GNUstep implementation (incl. 
its integration with X) is not on a similar level as Apple's 
implementation, there is probably only a small percentage of developers 
who are interested in GNUstep as a cross platform solution.

cheers,

-Phil
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Philippe C.D. Robert
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