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Re: Notes from GNUstep quarterly meet up...


From: Gregory Casamento
Subject: Re: Notes from GNUstep quarterly meet up...
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 00:24:27 -0400

Hey Steven,
I would love to speak to you about this.  Let me know when you can join a skype or jisti call so we can discuss.   Just a short list of what's going on...
  1. The current website is hosted on savannah (on CVS no less) and deployed to a pretty old server.  I have the (mostly) up-to-date version of the website on Github.  I would like things to be moved off of the old server to some other hosting (which the project would pay for if needed).  The DNS is on gandi.net. I can add you as a collaborator there, so you can change any of those settings.
  2. The other obvious thing is a redesign.  This version of the page was created by Riccardo Mottola.
  3. What was discussed in the meeting is in the notes.  The project really needs a way to get people up and running fast without having to look through pages of stuff and then wondering if everything works.
  4. The windows installer page needs to be updated.  The installers currently don't work.  I will make working installers.  We just need it not to take 3-4 clicks to get there without it being obvious what is going on.
The rest we can discuss later when we meet.   Thanks!!!

Yours, GC


On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 7:57 PM Steven R. Baker <steven@stevenrbaker.com> wrote:
I would like to volunteer to have website tasks assigned to me.  You can be vague and open ended with these.

I’m also happy to work on the gcc bits but I’ll need a pair or a sherpa on that because though I’d like to work on that, I have very little experience working on compilers. 

12 aug. 2021 kl. 20:38 skrev Gregory Casamento <greg.casamento@gmail.com>:


Hey guys... I would like to see if we can break out this list into action items and make some issues and assign them to certain individuals.   This way we make some progress based on our discussion.

I will take a stab at making a list of action items and post them here.  If anyone has any feedback, let me know.

Thx, GC

On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:00 AM Gregory Casamento <greg.casamento@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey all,


The meet up went well.  I REALLY enjoyed meeting everyone and I found the discussion very interesting and productive.   I took notes during the meeting.  We did not have an agenda so these points came up naturally.  I have noted who brought them up.  Riccardo joined later, so I took down his thoughts.   I am glad we did this and am very much looking forward to the next time. 


So, for your comment and review here are the notes:


* Website (David Wetzel - DW)

    * Need to have the website present a solution for installing GNUstep quickly.  Make a script…

    * tutorials to get from to hello world quickly

    * (Riccardo M. - RM) Discuss with Riccardo what changes are needed.

* Usability (DW)

    * More command line interfaces

    * Terminal based environment

        * Terminal only based tutorial

* GCC vs. LLVM/Clang (DW)

    * Clang has an advantage because ObjC is more of a focus

    * Fred: Is it possible to get  gcc up to spec? 

        * Require time from GS developers?  

            * Who should do it?

            * Will GCC accept our patches?

            * RMS asked, and GCC said they would review our patches with “kinder” eye.

    * Issues with libobjc2 - (RM) - This is a consistent issue on a lot of platforms.  LLVM/Clang Doesn’t work on ALL platforms.

        * Doesn’t work NetBSD

        * uses CMAKE, but would be better using STRAIGHT make as CMAKE is not available or not easy to configure

* Cairo - Problems (Fred Kiefer - FK)

    * unmaintained — should we move to another library??

    * Can we replace the current Cairo with a hw accelerated library? Or any other commonly used library that is maintained!?

* Cocotron (FK)

    * Can we use any Cocotron code?

    * MIT based.  So we may be able to reuse some of their code or take ideas from their code.


I will be posting these to the wiki or to the website soon.

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Yours, GC
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--
Gregory Casamento
GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron
https://gf.me/u/x8m3sx - My GNUstep GoFundMe


--
Gregory Casamento
GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant
http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron
https://gf.me/u/x8m3sx - My GNUstep GoFundMe

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