[gotmail] gotmail sorta working

[Kerry Blalock]

I have gotmail v 8, I believe, working on one user on my postfix,
squirrellmail, RH 9 system. I set it up with a cron job that runs every 15
minutes, and reads the info in users .gotmailrc file.
I have another user, using spanish language in squirrelmail, that I cannot
get gotmail to retrieve hotmail. It grinds and grinds, but does not get
the mail.
If needed, I can get the message I receive at the end.
Thanks for a great product,
Kerry

> with other MS products.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Forth" <address@hidden>
> To: <address@hidden>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [gotmail] out there suggestion...
>
>
>> Since MS changed their hotmail pages that last time that broke gotmail
>>  I have been using OE 6 (6.00.2800.1123)and would like to report there
>> are no ads in that interface so I can't that being the main driving
>> force behind
> MS
>> changing the site on a regular basis. Not being a programmer I can't
> really
>> offer any suggestions as to how to fix the perl script but it would
>> seem
> to
>> me that since OE doesn't break there has to be some way to get around
>> MS changing it's site?
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: address@hidden
>> [mailto:address@hidden Behalf
>> Of John Fruetel
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:27 PM
>> To: address@hidden; address@hidden
>> Subject: Re: [gotmail] out there suggestion...
>>
>>
>> I've actually thought about this quite a bit.  Gotmail is basically a
> fancy
>> 'screen scraper' that looks like a regular user to Hotmail.  As such,
>> it's prone to break every time MS changes the hotmail pages, like what
>> just happened.
>>
>> Paul Cannon, who worked on this project just before I did, also works
>> on hotwayd.  According to Paul, the http mail protocol isn't 100%
>> either.
> I'd
>> rather Paul spoke about this, but I got the impression from him that
>> the http mail protocol isn't a bad of roses either.  Although it's not
>> as
> likely
>> to break as gotmail is, it has it's own set of problems.
>>
>> I write web services all the time at work.  In fact, I use the amazon
>> webservices to test things.  I even have a webservice on bigfatdude to
> check
>> e-mails for spaminess.
>>
>> The problem here is that Microsoft doesn't seem to want to make it
>> easy to use Hotmail via a webservice.  Somebody can correct me if I'm
>> wrong, but
> as
>> far as I know http mail is still sorta proprietary to MS and they
>> don't
> seem
>> interested in opening it up.  They want you to go to the web page to
>> use hotmail and see all the advertising.  In fact, some years ago,
>> Outlook Express would show the same ads as hotmail when you used OE as
>> a hotmail client.
>>
>> So, I guess I'm agreeing here...  There is a lot of 'cross-over'
> development
>> happening here.  But I think that gotmail might be a little more
> functional
>> than hotwayd at the moment.  By 'functional', I mean it can do more.
>> But
> if
>> hotwayd can indeed do all the low-level functionality that gotmail
>> needs, I'm all for using it in the future.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ben Staniford" <address@hidden>
>> To: "'E H R'" <address@hidden>; <address@hidden>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 5:00 PM
>> Subject: RE: [gotmail] out there suggestion...
>>
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > You're not the only one :-)  Have you heard of WSDL (Web service
>> description language)?  Microsoft, Sun and IBM and are all piling
>> loads of money into XML based web services for websites (there's
>> open source stuff too I think) so that programs don't break when the
>> interface changes.  The WSDL is stored in a public directory (Like
>> LDAP) so that anyone can go and check out the interface and write
>> programs for it. There are cool programs for java/perl etc that
>> allow you to auto generate a set of classes (called stub classes)
>> for the web services interface so all you have to do is call the
>> methods from within your program and you can access all the data
>> from the website.  You can already get these XML interfaces for
>> amazon.com and many others.  So, once everyone has them, HTML
>> changes won't break things like they do now.
>> >
>> > Benj..
>> >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: address@hidden
>> > [mailto:gotmail-
>> > >address@hidden On Behalf Of E H R Sent:
>> 17 December 2003 00:41
>> > >To: address@hidden
>> > >Subject: [gotmail] out there suggestion...
>> > >
>> > >I have a rather large collection of webmails(on different systems)
>> and
>> > tend
>> > >to need a whole collection of daemons to run them all, now I was
>> > looking at
>> > >one of them(for mail.com) and I remembered that since the hotmail
>> and
>> > yahoo
>> > >rebuilds, a lot of work was going on.  Now I know the other
>> > >project(pywebmail) doesn't use the same language as gotmail(perl)
>> but I thought it was interesting it used xml for storing
>> webmail-server behaviour...  Could some kind of collaborative
>> effort, perhaps using
>> > those
>> > >same xml files, be built, so that there is less duplication of
>> effort
>> > when
>> > >hotmail et al decide to make our lives difficult?
>> > >
>> > >I've used fetchyahoo, gotmail, mrpostman, hotwayd, web2pop and
>> > pywebmail(at
>> > >least) so far, and I did notice that keeping up with the provides
>> is probably the largest part of the update work.
>> > >
>> > >Am I the only one who sees a great idea in this ?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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