Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046)

[Łukasz Czerwiński]

I know that this is not a very positive message, but I am trying

to save you yet more anguish.  The lilypond project currently does
not even function smoothly between senior developers with more
than 100 commits each; there is very little chance for a new
contributor to have a smooth and pleasant time helping us.

Oh, I didn't know about that. I'm reading some Lilypond mails and they made me the impression that you *urge* new contributors.

By the way, Janek stated in the mail regarding GSoC in February:

> Why is your organization applying to participate in Google Summer of
> Code 2012? What do you hope to gain by participating?
>    Most importantly: more contributors

I don't understand what's not working smoothly between senior developers. Could you describe in a pair of sentences? Is it a situation without a solution?

On 25 April 2012 15:02, Graham Percival <address@hidden> wrote:

>    For me it sounds like blaming me that I'm a beginner developer on
>    Lilypond project, so my work isn't as optimized as it should be. It's
>    not nice for me, really, and it doesn't encourage me to submit my
>    patches either.

*sigh*
yes, this is a huge problem.  You really need a mentor to guide
you through this process.  Janek Warcho did this for a few months,
but he gave up due to university work.

I believe that you're both Polish, so I really *really* wish that
he would offer to guide you.  You're in the same time zone, you
presumably speak the same native language, etc.

Yes, we are both Polish, yes, we are both in the same time zone, moreover in the same city and we know each other. From time to time I call Janek and he instructs me how to do this and that, but I thought it would be better for lilypond to ask using an official channel - this list. In the present situation, I'll talk with Janek and get to know if he could offer me more help (yes, I know he is CC'd, but I'll talk him on my own).

Łukasz