Re: [GNU/consensus] [SocialSwarm-D] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3

[carlo von lynX]

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 08:05:44PM -0300, hellekin wrote:
> *** I say it's blackmail for a government (agency) to force a company
> into betraying their customers.

Well, I'm afraid that's what the German and other governments are capable
to actually do in reaction to the NSA so they don't have a disadvantage.
That's why any strategy that depends on a company not to betray its
users (which from a business model unfortunately always makes sense)
is calling for trouble.

> likely, a lot of people will keep dancing in the ball room until the
> ship wrecks.

Yes, but they will do so on Facebook, so they're out of our reach anyway.
While concerning e-mail.. well.. bootstrapping PGP is more work and
less effective than bootstrapping Pond for example.

Btw, I updated Best Practice recommendations on http://secushare.org/comparison
from my best understanding and knowledge of the situation. There are Tor-based
or otherwise advanced ways to solve many use cases here today, so there is no
reason to spend time with federation or silo tools...