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Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3
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hellekin |
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Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3 |
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Fri, 15 Nov 2013 15:20:00 -0300 |
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On 11/15/2013 02:37 PM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
> But how do you know that the shipped operating system was not
> compromised? Where is the trust anchor?
>
*** True. But Ken Thompson addressed that issue in his seminal
article "Reflections on Trusting Trust" [0] and that is a known bug,
definitely out of our scope. Moreover, that problem becomes even
worse if you consider how Javascript in the browser can bypass the
Same-Origin policy and dynamically load third-party code.
So yes, we're trusting something along the path. At minimum, I'm
trusting you're going to read my message. And a lot of other things,
such as: we both have access to electricity, the infrastructure is
working, no bomb will obliterate us before we have finished our
conversation, and the Messiah is not coming right away--otherwise it
would be the Final Judgment, and all resistance would be futile. ;o)
==
hk
[0] https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=358210
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- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, (continued)
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, hellekin, 2013/11/14
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, carlo von lynX, 2013/11/14
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, Andreas Kuckartz, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, hellekin, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, Andreas Kuckartz, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3,
hellekin <=
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, carlo von lynX, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, Andreas Kuckartz, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, hellekin, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, carlo von lynX, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [SocialSwarm-D] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, hellekin, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [SocialSwarm-D] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, carlo von lynX, 2013/11/16
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [SocialSwarm-D] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, Andreas Kuckartz, 2013/11/17
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, Andreas Kuckartz, 2013/11/17
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [SocialSwarm-D] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, Melvin Carvalho, 2013/11/17
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, Andreas Kuckartz, 2013/11/18