Re: [Savannah-hackers] Re: Help wanted (sysadmin work)

[Yaroslav Klyukin]

> How much attention does the standaard "Linux" vendor give to Free
> Sofware?  Do they even mention GNU?  No, they don't.  They don't have
> the same ideals as we do.
>
> We want a completely Free operating system, they don't.

Free as a freedom. So they are doing exactly what their freedom of 
choice gives them - they call it any name they want, they sell it.

Please note that I try to put myself on the place of those people to 
realise, what makes them do that, in order to find the root causes of 
the problem. So far I could not find any definite answer why asking 
people to rename their products, from the standpoint of freedom.

Nobody has replied to my e-mail where I made an example of car 
manufacturing. To continue this topic -
Even if the car is made 90% of "Michelin" parts, in a "Toyota" factory, 
it is still called "Toyota", not "Michelin".
Or, maybe a better example: Even if a laptop is made of Intel parts, 
it's not called "Intel", it's called "Dell".

> True.  But there is nothing wrong with saying what we do: "Hey, go a
> long use Free Software, but don't forget why you should use it".  It's

I don't see the link between remembering and naming.
Anybody, using GNU tools realises, that he is using GNU tools, such as 
compilers, for instance, and gives his credit for that.

> a petty that we have to use more ways than that to get our message
> understood.  E.g. by insisting they call it GNU/Linux in stead of
> Linux.
I think that insisting would be a better way, if there is no other 
effective way to persuade people.
Phylosophy and spiritualism does not help much, because freedom gives 
people a choice of religion. So not only FSF evangelists are using GNU 
software.

Also, nobody replied about my suggestion to make a downladable copy of 
the GNU OS.


PS: As usually, no guarantee that any statements that I make are 
absolutely true and correct.