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Re: GNU/Hurd section in webpages


From: Robert Millan
Subject: Re: GNU/Hurd section in webpages
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:46:55 +0000
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Alfred told me off-list that he refuses to respond to my message. I'll respond
to myself hoping that some of the other maintainers care about this.

On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 05:40:51PM +0000, Robert Millan wrote:
> > 
> >  No page on the GNU project web server should ever make any references
> >  to non-free software or non-free documentation.  This is VERY
> >  important.
> 
> The particular text you quoted is off-topic. Could you paste a link with the
> whole guidelines?

After he provided me the link from which this quote is extracted, I couldn't
find the particular guideline I was looking for.

I recall having read that GNU web maintaining guidelines make a clear
distinction between linking to websites that advertise non-free software
and linking to websites that link to the former (If someone can clarify
this, it'd be appreciated).

Wether my recall is correct or not, what is true is that there's no difference
for what the guidelines are concerned between:

 - linking to a site [1] that links to a site [2] that in some way
   advertises or promotes non-free software.

[1] http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/
[2] http://www.debian.org/

 - linking to a site [1] that hosts a distribution [2] that advertises or
   promotes non-free software.

[1] http://ftp.gnu.org/iso/
[2] http://www.debian.org/

> > Yes, there is a problem with linking to non-free software.  As for how
> > the Hurd website will "go" without a link to a GNU/Hurd distribution,
> > I don't see the problem there.  The GNU Project is going quite well on
> > without a link to a GNU/Linux distribution.  And it has worked quite
> > well so far for us without a link to a GNU/Hurd distribution.
> 
> It hasn't. Would you take a look at:
> 
>   http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/install.html

Again, the GNU/Hurd Installation path in the Hurd website is completely broken.
It leads to either: a broken link to gnu.tar.gz, a set of CD images that are
not actualy there, or a tip to use crosshurd which is broken and will stay
broken for long.

At least, if you're not going to fix this it'd be nice if you fixed the site
to stop pretending there's an Installation path at all, which there isn't.

P.S: I'll stop bothering about this soon. I'll be just happy enough when
     at least Debian has a working Installation path to its distribution of
     GNU/Hurd.

-- 
Robert Millan

"[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the
thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he
gives and hoards not, and is free from care, passing ever on to some new work."

 -- J.R.R.T, Ainulindale (Silmarillion)




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