Re: [glob2-devel] Revive Glob2 with a kickstarter

[Leo Wandersleb]

Hi informed gamer,

any help is welcome ;)

but more so, I hope to get an idea on how much help we actually could expect for
which version of globulation.

If all of a sudden people step up and fix bugs in the current game, I would be
happy, too. Most likely that would be the cheapest way to get an actual cool
game. The frustration to regularly crash unrecoverably makes the current game
pretty worthless.


On 12/15/2013 06:41 PM, Alex Sapp wrote:
> I have no coding experience, and barely some graphic design experience (might 
> as well be none), but I am willing to help any way that I can. I am in the 
> US, have watched countless indie projects live and die, and could say that I 
> at least have the potential to offer advice on how to structure the game, 
> what features players want, and possible work flow advice. I can also test 
> extensively and can provide useful and unbiased feedback. Call me an informed 
> gamer.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Leo Wandersleb <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Kickstarter being US only should not be a problem as I guess we would easily
>> find some US glob2 member to handle that part.
>>
>> I'm more concerned about getting quality for the money. Last time I tried to
>> push Glob2 with money, I'm not sure if it even helped at all as for one I 
>> didn't
>> get half the agreed coding work for the money paid and maybe even poisoned 
>> the
>> open source spirit by bringing money in.
>>
>> I wonder how many former glob2 players we could reach with a campaign and
>> whether it is worth it, to share the funds with paypal and kickstarter in 
>> other
>> words I wonder if the usual kickstarter user might jump on supporting the
>> project if they are not former glob2 players anyway.
>>
>> About the design decisions: I am not passionate about reinventing the wheel, 
>> so
>> if we can base glob3 on another game, that's fine with me, too. (Mega)Glest 
>> [1]
>> for example has a nice game engine. I have no idea though whether their code
>> base is stuck just like glob2's. In such a case, pooling resources would 
>> maybe
>> make sense but they released the latest version just two months ago and they
>> claim to be very flexible.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Leo
>>
>> [1] http://megaglest.org/
>>
>>
>>> On 12/15/2013 03:43 PM, Linus Probert wrote:
>>> AFAIK it's US only still. Europe has indeigogo. I feel as if I'm getting to
>>> exited to quickly now, but a glob3 would be fun to work on. Or even a 
>>> glob2.1 if
>>> that is the case. Been running low on OS projects as of late.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Stéphane Magnenat <address@hidden
>>> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>
>>>    It is true that these are computationally demanding, but as they have
>>>    well-defined and stable interfaces, I do not see a problem in having them
>>>    implemented in C++. We could use numpy arrays for holding data and have a
>>>    module implemented in C++ for actually doing the search. I use this 
>>> scheme
>>>    for a nearest-neighbor library (libnabo) and it works fine.
>>>
>>>    It would be great if you could work on glob 3 ;-)
>>>
>>>    If we do a kickstarter should we build an association to collect and
>>>    distribute money? Is kickstart still only available in the US/UK?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Bradley Arsenault <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>
>>>        A Kickstarter project to create globulation 3 would need in the 
>>> range of
>>>        100K I would estimate. I still do freelance contracts so if the money
>>>        was actually raised, it could be arranged.
>>>
>>>        I wouldn't recommend using blender game engine myself, or Python. I'm
>>>        not sure these would be fast enough for the pathfinding algorithms 
>>> or AI
>>>        heatmap calculations.
>>>
>>>
>>>        On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:32 AM, <address@hidden
>>>        <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Absolutely, I think that really makes sense. The questions is then how
>>>> much do we want these animated, and what the engine should provide for
>>>> that. With the progresses of blender in the recent years, we can
>>>            imagine
>>>> nice animations of the buildings when they are active.
>>>
>>>            it depends a lot more on the shader capabilities of the engine 
>>> you are
>>>            planning to use, anyway, we can discuss the file specs if you 
>>> want ;)
>>>
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